So I sat through the NewsHour this evening and listened to the analysis of David Brooks and Ruth Marcus with Jim Lehrer.
Discussing the ongoing debt limit negotiations between Democratic and Republican leaders, both Brooks and Marcus visibly brightened at the prospect that Obama and Boehner were ready to make a big deal on the debt limit in which Obama would sell out Social Security and Medicare. Brooks even went so far as to happily mention that Obama is “sticking the knife in Pelosi.”
We all knew that, right?
Here’s the transcript of most of the erudite threesome’s remarks on the debt limit:
JIM LEHRER: Why is there -- are the prospects for the biggest deal better than for the medium deal or the little deal? What's happening?
RUTH MARCUS: Well, I'm not sure they're better, but the argument for the bigger deal and the reason that we might see a bigger deal is, bigger isn't just better in this circumstance. It actually might be easier, because you can trade off more different parts and more different constituencies.
And the Republicans -- Boehner, in order to get his Republicans, needs some Social Security cuts. And, so...
JIM LEHRER: And that takes -- the Democrats can get -- they can get some...
RUTH MARCUS: And then Democrats -- and the Democrats need a trillion dollars in tax revenue. And so maybe you can play around and make it look like less than a trillion. And then you whisper to your friends that it is actually a trillion.
It is going to be -- what's going on behind the scenes is absolutely fascinating. The oddest couple around is the president and the speaker. They are completely in synch in wanting to get this done.
DAVID BROOKS: Everyone else...
RUTH MARCUS: Whether they will -- everybody else, not so much.
DAVID BROOKS: Yes. Everyone else is miserable here.
JIM LEHRER: How do you explain that? What -- what has happened to make Obama and Boehner -- beyond just being golf partners?
(LAUGHTER)
DAVID BROOKS: Two things. One, I think they both seriously think the country has a problem, a deficit problem.
JIM LEHRER: OK. They agree that the debt limit, too, is a problem.
DAVID BROOKS: They agree, right.
And, third, incumbents have mutual incentives. The party of the incumbents wants to get reelected. If Obama cuts a deal, he's very likely to get reelected. If Boehner changes the trajectory of spending, he can say, we came to Washington. We did it.
And so, secretly, what's going on here is that Obama is really sticking the knife in Nancy Pelosi, making it unlikely that she's going to get -- get the speakership. And Boehner, if he cuts a deal, is hurting Mitt Romney or whoever the Republican nominee is.
And so the party of the incumbents are sticking together and hurting the party of the outs.
JIM LEHRER: Wow.
RUTH MARCUS: Do we have time?
JIM LEHRER: ... do you agree?
RUTH MARCUS: I mostly agree.
JIM LEHRER: You mostly agree?
That is as far as we can go. Sorry, Ruth. Good to see you.
(LAUGHTER)
RUTH MARCUS: Nice to see you
To read the transcript in its entirety, go here.
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